Post by SethLaRoth DeShawl on Dec 26, 2007 11:44:03 GMT -5
Originally posted by the knowledgable Kendamu and Donjitsu2 here: www.ki-teachings.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1
This is for all those who still question that radki is useless. I will
pick apart the most basic and most referenced techniques in the radki
“canon” of techniques.
It seems to me that many of you radki kids are missing the point. We
have never said that being able to attack, defend, move, or knock out a
person without making physical contact is impossible. In fact, numerous
times we speak at great length regarding to use of “no touch” power. We
simple refer to skills that enable one to harm another with out making
physical contact as the Lin Kong Jing (powerful empty force) or
Kiaijutsu. We have never said that with ki training you cannot become stronger
or faster. We simply call those methods by different names like nei
jing training (for internal power) or Speed Gong training (gong means
skill, this skill is from the Shaolin temple). We have never said that you
cannot have incredible amounts of power in your strikes. We just call
these methods shi jing, fa jing, ect… You see just because a skill seems
“esoteric” doesn’t mean we are going to write it off as radki or
“fluff”. It is the method by which you are attempting to gain certain
“esoteric” skills that we may call into question. Not all training method are
created equal. The radki training may promise certain desirable skills.
But do they deliver? Through out its history radki has never been able
to “walk the walk” so to speak (though radki practitioners do try to
“talk the talk”). The traditional methods deliver every you could ever
want out of martial training system: Health, fighting ability, and even
the legendary powers so many seek. You just need to put in the training
time. For those of you who still feel that radki has some thing to
offer I have listed below the three most common radki techniques and they
form the basis of all other techniques. (I have not listed the ki ball
exercise because in reality the ki ball exercise is a traditional
training method for healers). Along with a discussion on the Ki blast, Ki
shield, and Power up, I have also included a discussion on the incorrect
radki usage of the word “jing”.
One of the first things you will have to understand about the proper
usage of Qi is the “4 Big Points”. The four big points are the things
truly necessary in utilizing your qi in daily life and especially in
combat. Without them your techniques will be, what Yiquan creator Wang,
Hsiang Zhai referred to as, “lifeless and without real power or spirit”.
The four big points to utilizing qi for combat are:
1. Correct Posture
2. Correct Breathing- (either Buddhist style of Taoist style)
3. Correct Bodily Mechanics
4. Correct use of Intent
**"Ki blast: Place one hand out and make a chi ball. Begin to let
energy flow into that ball making it so big that it’s as big as your hand
and you can grip it all the way around. When a ball of energy is made
that big, begin to fill your arm with Chi itself and look at your target
drawing imaginary lines at it so you may guide your chi blast along
those lines. Unleash the energy you had in your arm out onto the ball of
energy and let it propel it out to the target. (To make the chi blast
damage whoever ... see the blast going through them making a hole in
them.) "**
Notice how at no point does this description mention anything about
body mechanics, breathing, or posture. All the practitioner is given is a
bunch of visualization. And might I add that this is improper use of
visualization (intent). I mean would anyone expect to be able to throw a
good strong punch or kick without first being well versed in posture,
body mechanics, breathing and intent. Of course not. Even modern boxing
with its simplistic approach to throwing punches has rules for
breathing, posture, body mechanics, and focus (intent). At its very base level
you are taught to punch by having one foot in front of the other,
spread about shoulder width apart, shoulders square with your opponent,
guard up, head up, and to stay “light on your toes”. That is just proper
posture for boxing, which is much more simplistic then any other martial
art. I could write a whole paper on the mechanics of a boxer’s punch,
which would include focus, posture, body mechanics, and breathing. Yet,
in this description of a radki technique, when we are working with a
very subtle energy, we are given nothing to work with but visualization.
Is that a basis for a proper technique? I think not. While we are on
the subject of visualization: the radki kids didn’t even get that right.
We all know qi (ki) is led by the mind (yi). But, do we really need to
“lead our qi by the hand”? Of course not, qi has been flowing through
you since your conception – with you having to even think about it. So,
if we simply wish our qi to flow out of our bodies all we need to do is
extend it beyond our body. With enough internal power you can extend
your qi a great distance. However, to build up the kind of internal power
needed for that and especially the kind of internal power needed for
combat you will need to be doing some internal power training (like zhan
zhuang). That is another thing radki sites never mention: nei jing
(internal power) training. If you are lucky you might get a description of
basic seated meditation or I’ve even seen a SECTION of the Ba Duan Jin
(a basic qigong). Trust me that isn’t nearly enough to build the kind
of power needed for martial applications.
**Ki Shield : Place both hands out in front of you . See within your
mind energy flowing from your Kae-dem into your arms . Then from your
arms to your hands . You will know when the energy is there . When you can
feel the energy in your palms, within your mind make the energy itself
expand around your hand"s however big you want it to be (the smaller
the easier ) . Hold it there at however big you have gotten it to be and
begin to visualize that Energy field you created upon your hands
turning into glass. The harder you focus on that glass ( shield ) the thicker
it will be."**
Now this one is the funny one. It pretty does all the bad things the ki
blast does, as I mentioned above. However, it goes a step further:
manipulating qi after it has left your body.
With that said lets look at the why of this technique. Why would be
need a ki shield? To block “ki attacks”. Well, that won’t work because all
you doing is bringing ki out and letting surround you (which you
actually aren’t doing for those of you who didn’t read the above links). How
is that any different from the ki that is already on your skin. A
non-physical attack obviously has no problem going through the qi that flows
on the Lou channels of your skin so why would it have trouble if you
somehow managed to get qi to form a shell around you (just off the
surface of your skin)? It wouldn’t. Then maybe it is for defending against
physical attacks. Sorry, no. Since you aren’t actually building a shield
of qi around you, you wouldn’t stopping anything.
**"Power Up: This technique is as strong as you make it.
Sit down, in your mind and begin to draw in energy all over into all
points of your body. Have your eyes shut and just let energy flow into
you Now do this for however long you wish ( the longer the bigger the
power ) . When you feel that you have as much energy that you want, stand
up and have your head bowed sort of like a dramatic scene. Picture the
worse thing that has happened to you like perhaps a death in your
family and let that get you angry. When you get angry and you know it have
your eyes and face shoot your eyes open and yell letting out that energy
like a flare out which will probably quadruple your power for around 10
seconds or however you hold it out ( do this when your not tired but
hyper for better results )."**
Along with breaking the same rules as the ki blast this one also goes a
step further – just in a different direction then the ki shield. This
technique has you drawing in qi from points all over your body. The
reason this is wrong is that there are certain points on your body where qi
actually flows out from (like the palms and fingertips). Drawing energy
in from points like that will cause stagnation of qi. Qi stagnation is
a very bad thing and can cause severe illness. It also has you to make
yourself feel angry. Working with energy and being angry is bad for the
spirit and can also cause illness and damage to the internal organs.
When do energy practice you will want to be calm and focused, not angry.
Xingyiquan master Dai Long Bang (1750 a.d) echoes these views in one of
his treatises on internal power training:
“Before practice - The stomach should be neither too full nor too
empty, the mind should not be preoccupied with other affairs, do not
practice when angry. When hungry one has no energy, too full and the stomach
will be injured. Extraneous thoughts harm the brain. Anger harms the
spirit.”
The author of this technique also disregards exactly ‘how’ to flare out
the energy (as if one could do such a thing).
Often I hear the radki-ka talk about Jing. Except they seem to have
really bastardized this word. Within the radki community jing is meant to
mean “compressed ki”. This is total crap and anyone with any knowledge
of internal martial arts can tell you otherwise. Jing is a Chinese word
and has two different meanings (a Chinese homonym if you will). In one
sense Jing relates to the three treasures of man and translates to mean
“essence”. It is the primal energy you get from you parents that makes
you, physically you. It is closely related to bodily fluids, especially
semen and menstrual blood. In another sense jing can be seen as meaning
“skillful or refined strength” (as opposed to brute strength). However,
it can also mean “internal strength”, as it has come to be translated
by modern internal martial artists (for good reason I assure you). I,
and many other internal martial artists, translate the word jing both
ways at the same time: jing – “internally refined strength or power”. Any
other translations outside the already established translations of this
Chinese word are incorrect. There is simply no other way of saying it.
We know what the word means and it CANNOT be translated to mean
anything close to “compressed ki”. Sorry, but deal with it.
I think that should just about do it. Feel free to post questions or
arguments.
I'll start the replies by replying to everything published on the
website you got those Radki examples from:
This is my response to
www.geocities.com/halos_hideout/What_is_ki.html
Halo wrote:
If you find yourself asking this well it fairly simple in the way you
look at it really . Ki ( chi ) Is the universal spiritual energy that
all living beings pocess .
I prefer to see it on a more realistic level that I learned from Dr.
Yang, Jwing-Ming. Qi is the fundamental stuff of the universe. Everything
is made of matter. Matter is made of energy vibrating at various
frequencies.
Quote:
Me and you both have chi within us and an aura to top it off thats
constantly showing .
According to modern research, Qi is strongly related to bio-electricity
(and I believe that bio-electricity is Ren Qi [human Qi]). Since
bio-electricity does slightly eminate off the body due to nervous activity,
I'll have to agree with you on that aura bit.
Quote:
My dog has a Ki level also since he is a living being .
Yes, all living things do have Ren Qi, but don't let that fool you into
thinking that dead things don't have Qi. The Qi of dead things is
called Si Qi (dead Qi) or Guo Qi (ghost Qi). Since all matter has Qi
(energy) and even dead things have matter, dead beings are not without Qi.
Quote:
Since its a spiritual energy animals can not raise their chi levels...
Wait a minute! I want to once again say that Qi is not spiritual. In
China, electricity is called Dian Qi (electric Qi), the weather is called
Tian Qi (heaven Qi), and heat is called Re Qi (heat Qi). Heat, the
weather, and electricty are not spiritual and you should know that if you
ever listened through your science lessons. Qi is not spiritual. Its
scientific.
Quote:
...because well im Christian and i beleive Humans will only inherit the
Kingdom of God when they pass on . If your thinking that movie " all
dogs go to Heaven " is still real then either your moms been babying you
for far to long or you just got something wrong with you .
Now this is out of nowhere. There is nothing wrong with me and my mom
has not been babying me. I'm just not a Christian and being something
besides Christian is not wrong. Its not like you're one to talk of
maturity, anyway.
Quote:
Anyways Ki is an unlimited power within us since our soul is endless so
is our ki level at all points, even when you dont have anymore your
still alive so you still have some within you .
If you still have some within you then talking about not having anymore
is kind of redundant. As I stated before, even dead matter has Qi.
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Some people will tell you if you are Christian that this is a tool of
satan like " Witchcraft " or something like that but its not .
Looks like we agree that its not a tool of Satan but we agree for
different reasons. If Qi was Satanic then existance itself would be Satanic
by my logic.
Quote:
Its the energy that allows you to race your friends, get up and go to
school, You use Ki everyday without knowing it.
We agree again!
Quote:
God put this within us and I rather learn to use it then let it just
sit there .
That's a personal belief but I get your drift. Good motivation!
This is my response to the part the Faith page that applies to my life.
You can view this at
www.geocities.com/halos_hideout/Religion.html
Halo wrote:
What is Witchcraft ?
its a power of satan thats used for evil and some say its used for good
... But I dont see how Evil can be used for good ... Isnt that self
Contridicting ?
Actually Witchcraft is part of a religion known as Wicca. According to
the rules of Wicca, to actually harm someone with Witchcraft is the
equivalent of breaking one of your Ten Commandments.
Quote:
The controling of another persons will is the art of witchcraft by
Biblical terms . If I force someone to jump off a cliff to thier death is
witchcraft . Just Controling someone aginst thier will is witchcraft .
According to some rituals I have attended, I perceive witchcraft as a
bunch of rituals meant to give thanks to the God and Goddesses that
those people believe in because they believe that it will keep the world in
a natural balance to do so.
Of course, you are a Christian and as far as I know Christians believe
that every other belief in existance is wrong. Please correct me if I
am misinterpreting Christianity.
---------------------------------
This is my response to
www.geocities.com/halos_hideout/Energies.html
Quote:
ENERGIES
This place explains all the diffrent Kinds of energy that this world
and some others pocess . use what you will and Please know what is good
and evil of all kinds of energies.
Chi, Ki, = The energy of the spirit which all Living things are blessed
with within this world and outside . ( dosent affect non-living things
. If at a High Energy level from the intensity of the energy it can
affect though, and if Mental and visualization is included then it can
affect non-living thing . )
Qi is the energy of all matter that makes up and powers matter and
matter is what makes up every material thing in existance. Its not a
spiritual energy. Its not something that requires faith and beliefs. Refer
back to m rant on heat, eletricity and the weather!
Quote:
Mana : ( Revised ) This is the energy of the earth which flows through
the earth, its true its used in witchcraft in some forms but in others
its just another energy . When using Mana it helps in-tune us with
nature some say .
What you're thinking of is Di Qi (Earth Qi) which is the magnetic field
of the Earth. This field, through interaction with with other heavenly
bodies, is what creates things like tides. It has nothing to do with
Witchcraft of any type.
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Light Matter : The energy of the sun . This energy wards of evil and
helps to fight aginst darkness and demons very well when need'd . its so
strong it takes a little while to gather it .
Actually, radiation is the energy of the sun though the presence of the
sun does give off Re Qi (Heat Qi). It has nothing to do with the
fighting off of demons. It has more to do with the revolutions and general
life of our planet.
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Dark Matter : The opposite of Light matter . This energy is evil right
down to the core . It fills the mind with chaos i beleive or can
corrupt ones self, or possibly take control ... since thers no telling what
evil is capable of these days .
Dark Matter is actually a perpetually dense piece of rock that fell
from space into someone's back yard in northern Indiana between 1994 and
1996. Supposedly it is now being held at Ft. Knox. Its not good or evil.
Its just a rock.
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Jing : The energy that is within ones muscles and can be squeezed out
during tension . Its created when energy is so compressed it takes form
at times and has weight .
Essentially, without getting into too much detail, Jing is the essence
of humanity. Jing from the mother and father combined is what forms a
human being. It can be conserved through not over-indulging in sexual
activity and refined through different types of meditation in order to
increase longevity. In the martial arts it can be conserved and refined
in order to make your strikes more powerful or for you to project Qi
over a distance after a few years of a special type of training.
Quote:
Shen : Mysterious energy that comes when Limits are broken or when
Limit Breaks are done . When one can harness the abilities of shen then one
is truely mysterious .
Actually Shen is the Spirit. Spirit would happen to be a part of the
mind which resides in the Upper Dan Tian traditionally. The other parts
of the mind being Xin (emotional mind) and Yi (will).
Quote:
Psi : Energy of the Mind . It is the mental capabilities that allow us
to move things with our minds and talk to one another mentaly .
You're actually right about this one. In Chinese the skills from this
would come from a refined Shen, Xin, and Yi.
Burn out
Something that all people who plan to train in chi should know about is
called " burn out " .
BURN OUT : When your body is at such a loss of energy, when you have
used up so much energy you get to the point where you can feel Deathly
Ill .
The way to prevent this is, Befor Sparring or even trainning, do at
least 5 minutes of meditation so you can draw in some extra energy, or do
like i do, use a " Chi Chamber " which is created with the " Chi
Chamber " tech . If you do burn out, the best thing i can reccomend is that
you stay in bed and listen to UpLifting Christian Music something that
will make you happy for about 2 days or maybe 1 day if you cant make 2 .
Do not doubt anything, and do not fear, the burn out will disappear
over a certain period of time . Drink lots of fluids like gatorade and DO
NOT i repeat DO NOT try to do anything not even meditation Until you
are FULLY if not almost completey Healed .
In reality there is no such thing as Burn Out. When you work with your
Qi in a proper manner you can't become burnt out. The only things even
close to this are becoming injured in a fight, not keeping up with your
Qigong or going outside when the weather is too bad for just your Qi
alone to protect you from and becoming sick, or staying awake for too
long and falling asleep so that your body can rebalace itself. What Halo
is basically describing (minus the Christian music) is tips for getting
over the flu.
Kouji's addendum:
Qigong can:
Improve health, increase martial power, increase awareness, increase stamina, make you impervious to cuts and bruises, heal yourself or others...
Qigong can't:
Make you fly, let you shoot beams of light, make you a "Super Saiyan", make you invincible, etc.
www.geocities.com/koujiryu/beam.jpg <----the only beam attack you'll ever be able to do
This is for all those who still question that radki is useless. I will
pick apart the most basic and most referenced techniques in the radki
“canon” of techniques.
It seems to me that many of you radki kids are missing the point. We
have never said that being able to attack, defend, move, or knock out a
person without making physical contact is impossible. In fact, numerous
times we speak at great length regarding to use of “no touch” power. We
simple refer to skills that enable one to harm another with out making
physical contact as the Lin Kong Jing (powerful empty force) or
Kiaijutsu. We have never said that with ki training you cannot become stronger
or faster. We simply call those methods by different names like nei
jing training (for internal power) or Speed Gong training (gong means
skill, this skill is from the Shaolin temple). We have never said that you
cannot have incredible amounts of power in your strikes. We just call
these methods shi jing, fa jing, ect… You see just because a skill seems
“esoteric” doesn’t mean we are going to write it off as radki or
“fluff”. It is the method by which you are attempting to gain certain
“esoteric” skills that we may call into question. Not all training method are
created equal. The radki training may promise certain desirable skills.
But do they deliver? Through out its history radki has never been able
to “walk the walk” so to speak (though radki practitioners do try to
“talk the talk”). The traditional methods deliver every you could ever
want out of martial training system: Health, fighting ability, and even
the legendary powers so many seek. You just need to put in the training
time. For those of you who still feel that radki has some thing to
offer I have listed below the three most common radki techniques and they
form the basis of all other techniques. (I have not listed the ki ball
exercise because in reality the ki ball exercise is a traditional
training method for healers). Along with a discussion on the Ki blast, Ki
shield, and Power up, I have also included a discussion on the incorrect
radki usage of the word “jing”.
One of the first things you will have to understand about the proper
usage of Qi is the “4 Big Points”. The four big points are the things
truly necessary in utilizing your qi in daily life and especially in
combat. Without them your techniques will be, what Yiquan creator Wang,
Hsiang Zhai referred to as, “lifeless and without real power or spirit”.
The four big points to utilizing qi for combat are:
1. Correct Posture
2. Correct Breathing- (either Buddhist style of Taoist style)
3. Correct Bodily Mechanics
4. Correct use of Intent
**"Ki blast: Place one hand out and make a chi ball. Begin to let
energy flow into that ball making it so big that it’s as big as your hand
and you can grip it all the way around. When a ball of energy is made
that big, begin to fill your arm with Chi itself and look at your target
drawing imaginary lines at it so you may guide your chi blast along
those lines. Unleash the energy you had in your arm out onto the ball of
energy and let it propel it out to the target. (To make the chi blast
damage whoever ... see the blast going through them making a hole in
them.) "**
Notice how at no point does this description mention anything about
body mechanics, breathing, or posture. All the practitioner is given is a
bunch of visualization. And might I add that this is improper use of
visualization (intent). I mean would anyone expect to be able to throw a
good strong punch or kick without first being well versed in posture,
body mechanics, breathing and intent. Of course not. Even modern boxing
with its simplistic approach to throwing punches has rules for
breathing, posture, body mechanics, and focus (intent). At its very base level
you are taught to punch by having one foot in front of the other,
spread about shoulder width apart, shoulders square with your opponent,
guard up, head up, and to stay “light on your toes”. That is just proper
posture for boxing, which is much more simplistic then any other martial
art. I could write a whole paper on the mechanics of a boxer’s punch,
which would include focus, posture, body mechanics, and breathing. Yet,
in this description of a radki technique, when we are working with a
very subtle energy, we are given nothing to work with but visualization.
Is that a basis for a proper technique? I think not. While we are on
the subject of visualization: the radki kids didn’t even get that right.
We all know qi (ki) is led by the mind (yi). But, do we really need to
“lead our qi by the hand”? Of course not, qi has been flowing through
you since your conception – with you having to even think about it. So,
if we simply wish our qi to flow out of our bodies all we need to do is
extend it beyond our body. With enough internal power you can extend
your qi a great distance. However, to build up the kind of internal power
needed for that and especially the kind of internal power needed for
combat you will need to be doing some internal power training (like zhan
zhuang). That is another thing radki sites never mention: nei jing
(internal power) training. If you are lucky you might get a description of
basic seated meditation or I’ve even seen a SECTION of the Ba Duan Jin
(a basic qigong). Trust me that isn’t nearly enough to build the kind
of power needed for martial applications.
**Ki Shield : Place both hands out in front of you . See within your
mind energy flowing from your Kae-dem into your arms . Then from your
arms to your hands . You will know when the energy is there . When you can
feel the energy in your palms, within your mind make the energy itself
expand around your hand"s however big you want it to be (the smaller
the easier ) . Hold it there at however big you have gotten it to be and
begin to visualize that Energy field you created upon your hands
turning into glass. The harder you focus on that glass ( shield ) the thicker
it will be."**
Now this one is the funny one. It pretty does all the bad things the ki
blast does, as I mentioned above. However, it goes a step further:
manipulating qi after it has left your body.
With that said lets look at the why of this technique. Why would be
need a ki shield? To block “ki attacks”. Well, that won’t work because all
you doing is bringing ki out and letting surround you (which you
actually aren’t doing for those of you who didn’t read the above links). How
is that any different from the ki that is already on your skin. A
non-physical attack obviously has no problem going through the qi that flows
on the Lou channels of your skin so why would it have trouble if you
somehow managed to get qi to form a shell around you (just off the
surface of your skin)? It wouldn’t. Then maybe it is for defending against
physical attacks. Sorry, no. Since you aren’t actually building a shield
of qi around you, you wouldn’t stopping anything.
**"Power Up: This technique is as strong as you make it.
Sit down, in your mind and begin to draw in energy all over into all
points of your body. Have your eyes shut and just let energy flow into
you Now do this for however long you wish ( the longer the bigger the
power ) . When you feel that you have as much energy that you want, stand
up and have your head bowed sort of like a dramatic scene. Picture the
worse thing that has happened to you like perhaps a death in your
family and let that get you angry. When you get angry and you know it have
your eyes and face shoot your eyes open and yell letting out that energy
like a flare out which will probably quadruple your power for around 10
seconds or however you hold it out ( do this when your not tired but
hyper for better results )."**
Along with breaking the same rules as the ki blast this one also goes a
step further – just in a different direction then the ki shield. This
technique has you drawing in qi from points all over your body. The
reason this is wrong is that there are certain points on your body where qi
actually flows out from (like the palms and fingertips). Drawing energy
in from points like that will cause stagnation of qi. Qi stagnation is
a very bad thing and can cause severe illness. It also has you to make
yourself feel angry. Working with energy and being angry is bad for the
spirit and can also cause illness and damage to the internal organs.
When do energy practice you will want to be calm and focused, not angry.
Xingyiquan master Dai Long Bang (1750 a.d) echoes these views in one of
his treatises on internal power training:
“Before practice - The stomach should be neither too full nor too
empty, the mind should not be preoccupied with other affairs, do not
practice when angry. When hungry one has no energy, too full and the stomach
will be injured. Extraneous thoughts harm the brain. Anger harms the
spirit.”
The author of this technique also disregards exactly ‘how’ to flare out
the energy (as if one could do such a thing).
Often I hear the radki-ka talk about Jing. Except they seem to have
really bastardized this word. Within the radki community jing is meant to
mean “compressed ki”. This is total crap and anyone with any knowledge
of internal martial arts can tell you otherwise. Jing is a Chinese word
and has two different meanings (a Chinese homonym if you will). In one
sense Jing relates to the three treasures of man and translates to mean
“essence”. It is the primal energy you get from you parents that makes
you, physically you. It is closely related to bodily fluids, especially
semen and menstrual blood. In another sense jing can be seen as meaning
“skillful or refined strength” (as opposed to brute strength). However,
it can also mean “internal strength”, as it has come to be translated
by modern internal martial artists (for good reason I assure you). I,
and many other internal martial artists, translate the word jing both
ways at the same time: jing – “internally refined strength or power”. Any
other translations outside the already established translations of this
Chinese word are incorrect. There is simply no other way of saying it.
We know what the word means and it CANNOT be translated to mean
anything close to “compressed ki”. Sorry, but deal with it.
I think that should just about do it. Feel free to post questions or
arguments.
I'll start the replies by replying to everything published on the
website you got those Radki examples from:
This is my response to
www.geocities.com/halos_hideout/What_is_ki.html
Halo wrote:
If you find yourself asking this well it fairly simple in the way you
look at it really . Ki ( chi ) Is the universal spiritual energy that
all living beings pocess .
I prefer to see it on a more realistic level that I learned from Dr.
Yang, Jwing-Ming. Qi is the fundamental stuff of the universe. Everything
is made of matter. Matter is made of energy vibrating at various
frequencies.
Quote:
Me and you both have chi within us and an aura to top it off thats
constantly showing .
According to modern research, Qi is strongly related to bio-electricity
(and I believe that bio-electricity is Ren Qi [human Qi]). Since
bio-electricity does slightly eminate off the body due to nervous activity,
I'll have to agree with you on that aura bit.
Quote:
My dog has a Ki level also since he is a living being .
Yes, all living things do have Ren Qi, but don't let that fool you into
thinking that dead things don't have Qi. The Qi of dead things is
called Si Qi (dead Qi) or Guo Qi (ghost Qi). Since all matter has Qi
(energy) and even dead things have matter, dead beings are not without Qi.
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Since its a spiritual energy animals can not raise their chi levels...
Wait a minute! I want to once again say that Qi is not spiritual. In
China, electricity is called Dian Qi (electric Qi), the weather is called
Tian Qi (heaven Qi), and heat is called Re Qi (heat Qi). Heat, the
weather, and electricty are not spiritual and you should know that if you
ever listened through your science lessons. Qi is not spiritual. Its
scientific.
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...because well im Christian and i beleive Humans will only inherit the
Kingdom of God when they pass on . If your thinking that movie " all
dogs go to Heaven " is still real then either your moms been babying you
for far to long or you just got something wrong with you .
Now this is out of nowhere. There is nothing wrong with me and my mom
has not been babying me. I'm just not a Christian and being something
besides Christian is not wrong. Its not like you're one to talk of
maturity, anyway.
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Anyways Ki is an unlimited power within us since our soul is endless so
is our ki level at all points, even when you dont have anymore your
still alive so you still have some within you .
If you still have some within you then talking about not having anymore
is kind of redundant. As I stated before, even dead matter has Qi.
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Some people will tell you if you are Christian that this is a tool of
satan like " Witchcraft " or something like that but its not .
Looks like we agree that its not a tool of Satan but we agree for
different reasons. If Qi was Satanic then existance itself would be Satanic
by my logic.
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Its the energy that allows you to race your friends, get up and go to
school, You use Ki everyday without knowing it.
We agree again!
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God put this within us and I rather learn to use it then let it just
sit there .
That's a personal belief but I get your drift. Good motivation!
This is my response to the part the Faith page that applies to my life.
You can view this at
www.geocities.com/halos_hideout/Religion.html
Halo wrote:
What is Witchcraft ?
its a power of satan thats used for evil and some say its used for good
... But I dont see how Evil can be used for good ... Isnt that self
Contridicting ?
Actually Witchcraft is part of a religion known as Wicca. According to
the rules of Wicca, to actually harm someone with Witchcraft is the
equivalent of breaking one of your Ten Commandments.
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The controling of another persons will is the art of witchcraft by
Biblical terms . If I force someone to jump off a cliff to thier death is
witchcraft . Just Controling someone aginst thier will is witchcraft .
According to some rituals I have attended, I perceive witchcraft as a
bunch of rituals meant to give thanks to the God and Goddesses that
those people believe in because they believe that it will keep the world in
a natural balance to do so.
Of course, you are a Christian and as far as I know Christians believe
that every other belief in existance is wrong. Please correct me if I
am misinterpreting Christianity.
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This is my response to
www.geocities.com/halos_hideout/Energies.html
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ENERGIES
This place explains all the diffrent Kinds of energy that this world
and some others pocess . use what you will and Please know what is good
and evil of all kinds of energies.
Chi, Ki, = The energy of the spirit which all Living things are blessed
with within this world and outside . ( dosent affect non-living things
. If at a High Energy level from the intensity of the energy it can
affect though, and if Mental and visualization is included then it can
affect non-living thing . )
Qi is the energy of all matter that makes up and powers matter and
matter is what makes up every material thing in existance. Its not a
spiritual energy. Its not something that requires faith and beliefs. Refer
back to m rant on heat, eletricity and the weather!
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Mana : ( Revised ) This is the energy of the earth which flows through
the earth, its true its used in witchcraft in some forms but in others
its just another energy . When using Mana it helps in-tune us with
nature some say .
What you're thinking of is Di Qi (Earth Qi) which is the magnetic field
of the Earth. This field, through interaction with with other heavenly
bodies, is what creates things like tides. It has nothing to do with
Witchcraft of any type.
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Light Matter : The energy of the sun . This energy wards of evil and
helps to fight aginst darkness and demons very well when need'd . its so
strong it takes a little while to gather it .
Actually, radiation is the energy of the sun though the presence of the
sun does give off Re Qi (Heat Qi). It has nothing to do with the
fighting off of demons. It has more to do with the revolutions and general
life of our planet.
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Dark Matter : The opposite of Light matter . This energy is evil right
down to the core . It fills the mind with chaos i beleive or can
corrupt ones self, or possibly take control ... since thers no telling what
evil is capable of these days .
Dark Matter is actually a perpetually dense piece of rock that fell
from space into someone's back yard in northern Indiana between 1994 and
1996. Supposedly it is now being held at Ft. Knox. Its not good or evil.
Its just a rock.
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Jing : The energy that is within ones muscles and can be squeezed out
during tension . Its created when energy is so compressed it takes form
at times and has weight .
Essentially, without getting into too much detail, Jing is the essence
of humanity. Jing from the mother and father combined is what forms a
human being. It can be conserved through not over-indulging in sexual
activity and refined through different types of meditation in order to
increase longevity. In the martial arts it can be conserved and refined
in order to make your strikes more powerful or for you to project Qi
over a distance after a few years of a special type of training.
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Shen : Mysterious energy that comes when Limits are broken or when
Limit Breaks are done . When one can harness the abilities of shen then one
is truely mysterious .
Actually Shen is the Spirit. Spirit would happen to be a part of the
mind which resides in the Upper Dan Tian traditionally. The other parts
of the mind being Xin (emotional mind) and Yi (will).
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Psi : Energy of the Mind . It is the mental capabilities that allow us
to move things with our minds and talk to one another mentaly .
You're actually right about this one. In Chinese the skills from this
would come from a refined Shen, Xin, and Yi.
Burn out
Something that all people who plan to train in chi should know about is
called " burn out " .
BURN OUT : When your body is at such a loss of energy, when you have
used up so much energy you get to the point where you can feel Deathly
Ill .
The way to prevent this is, Befor Sparring or even trainning, do at
least 5 minutes of meditation so you can draw in some extra energy, or do
like i do, use a " Chi Chamber " which is created with the " Chi
Chamber " tech . If you do burn out, the best thing i can reccomend is that
you stay in bed and listen to UpLifting Christian Music something that
will make you happy for about 2 days or maybe 1 day if you cant make 2 .
Do not doubt anything, and do not fear, the burn out will disappear
over a certain period of time . Drink lots of fluids like gatorade and DO
NOT i repeat DO NOT try to do anything not even meditation Until you
are FULLY if not almost completey Healed .
In reality there is no such thing as Burn Out. When you work with your
Qi in a proper manner you can't become burnt out. The only things even
close to this are becoming injured in a fight, not keeping up with your
Qigong or going outside when the weather is too bad for just your Qi
alone to protect you from and becoming sick, or staying awake for too
long and falling asleep so that your body can rebalace itself. What Halo
is basically describing (minus the Christian music) is tips for getting
over the flu.
Kouji's addendum:
Qigong can:
Improve health, increase martial power, increase awareness, increase stamina, make you impervious to cuts and bruises, heal yourself or others...
Qigong can't:
Make you fly, let you shoot beams of light, make you a "Super Saiyan", make you invincible, etc.
www.geocities.com/koujiryu/beam.jpg <----the only beam attack you'll ever be able to do
It was well written and I even enjoyed reading it.I also agree with you 100% on the "quotations" as well.Oh yeah thanks for pointing out the dangerous things so now people can be safe. ;D
