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Post by alfaalex101 on Mar 2, 2009 13:00:51 GMT -5
Hmm...since everything begins in the mind..and..visualizations are the most effective ways to move/express your will to move objects...I suggest we DO NOT focus on one object constantly visualizing it moving. Visualizing and object is key before we can even have faith (You need to have faith in SOMETHING..and that visualization is a representation of what your faith knows is true). Since the mind will get bored quickly if we keep on visualizing the same thing over and over again..I suggest we visualize..realistically (accurately) every object moving and have faith in it. That way our minds don't get bored, and our visualization skills get a boost and so can our faith get a good scrubbing of doubt! How does it sound? I'm trying it out.
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Post by Drynal on Mar 5, 2009 23:06:46 GMT -5
I think you would like this book that I am reading. It's pretty amazing. It's called "The Divine Matrix."
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Post by Psinoob on Mar 14, 2009 21:19:54 GMT -5
Very VERY interesting..(and should of been obvious) discovery. Firstly, we need to differentiate between belief and faith. Belief depends off of what we see.  Faith does NOT depend off of what we see. So why do we visualize things? What is the point of making the visualization seem "real"? More so, here is a nice quote I stumbled apon from the Bible: "call the things that are not as if they already were" (Romans 4:17) Very.. very interesting... This may make telekinesis SO much easier and that much better. I've actually managed to budge a watch like this...just recently. This also means our faith will increace over time! We can increace in our faith without meditating or even being present with the object! How amazing! How wonderful! No more, tiresome days trying to visualize an object moving in one way or another. I think visualization is meant just to direct our will. It is our inner faith which does the heavy lifting (relativly easily) I'm excited to use this technique! Please try using/experimenting with it guys! lol, my avatar... tell me, what are your goals for this training. I ask this not only to you but to everyone who will read this. Why? Because, it is one good topic that I find needs a little touching up on. Always keep your goals in mind, but not to much in mind. Get what I'm saying. Don't blind yourself with your goals, make good decisions that will benefit the whole in the end. This isn't as much to you, alfa, but to add some side info from your friendly neighborhood psinoob. ;D Oh, and to your last post, I like that idea. I will try that when I find time. School is such a drag...  But it does provide some good practice (aka *attempting* to move pencils and making psi ball under my desk) |
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Post by alfaalex101 on Mar 25, 2009 11:49:13 GMT -5
Oh, my goal is to move a car at high speeds, fly, heal others, save others from the end of time, save myself, serve God. Yup. That's just about it. How useful..or USELESS are visualizations anyway? Why do we visualize objects moving? As proof? We don't need proof, remember? This is faith, not belief. As a matter of fact, faith needs no evidence. Could we not learn, but start realizing that we have telekinesis? I think, we don't even need to practice telekinesis. Number 1..we already have telekinesis. Number 2, doubt is keeping us back and to kill doubt we just need to stop telling ourselves: "I'm not worthy for this. It's not real. I can only move a psi wheel, etc, etc" I'm reading a tiny book and all we have to do is just have faith by taking off the picture in our rooms of self-defeat and replace it with an image of us being telekinetics (and of anything else we may want to be!) We need not worry, as long as we acknowledge that our doubts are simply bad thinking patterns and strengthin our faith, seeing it materialize into reality - then we will finally be able to use our powers! Faith grows like a plant! You can't rush it our shout at it to grow by - it just does! You can't, "convince yourself" with visualizations..(whatever purpose they may serve). I'm beginning to believe that the 45 minutes a day I spent visualizing for 1.5 weeks a year ago..was not beneficial because I was visualizing an object moving on and on...but because I had faith, growing every day (I really got excited about it more and more everyday  ), that I would be able to roll a pen! And I did! The thing that got me going on the pen roll was because a website actually said, hey, you don't need to start at that stupid psi wheel! It was really encouraging and my faith grew and I did it! SO - I don't think visualizations...are needed. Meditations included...like..if they were so useful, why wouldn't we see people moving mountains? They aren't. Most people that do telekinesis themselves, don't know how it works. Anyways, I think I'm not going to visualize objects moving anymore. It's pointless and is being dragged along from failing techniques to failing techniques. If people are having faith not visualizing but just having faith that they can cure themselves of cancer and diabetes, then the heck I know it will work amazingly with telekinesis. I'm going to see how far faith can take me. What do you guys think? |
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Post by Psinoob on Mar 26, 2009 18:15:13 GMT -5
I wish you the best of luck alfaalex. Meanwhile, I am trying some of my own theories on many things, which I may get around to posting eventually, once I get them straight in my head. It is mostly different ways one could go about thinking and believing (yes, i said believing, I am working on that side of the line right now, experimenting).
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Post by alfaalex101 on Apr 11, 2009 9:45:04 GMT -5
Okay, I'm going back to visualizations for a good reason. I know I've been tossing ideas around here and there but that is what this thread is for and I intend on getting to a technique that will not drive you crazy psychologically or philosophically.
Okay. We obviously need faith and no doubt. So, we visualize an object as a looming or hidden reality, and our response to that determines our levels of faith and doubt.
>We must visualize the object as reality because if it isn't, then it is fake or just our imagination. But right there we have a conflict with realities (two realities, one hidden being TK and one we can see 3D.) So we have to say it is looming or exists, just "not yet" because we only have faith in what is real, what we see now. But in reality there are two, one with think doesn't exist, one we know does exist. So we must keep in mind that there is another reality. Our visualizations are valid because they are a looming reality.
>We do not use the object to convince us of anything or prove anything. But, we are training for when it will be there by visualizing it. Sort of getting ready to jump into a more complete version of reality where we realize that telekinesis is real. When Jesus walked on water, all his disciples were shocked. If they had visualized him walking on water many times before - they would be less shocked and it would be more obvious to them that they can do it themselves and wouldn't be like "OMG I THOUGHT THAT WUZ FAKE!!"
That's what I got right now. I still have to work the hi jinks with questions like "But if it's not there, then why should I visualize it's there!" That demands proof which is outside our means at the moment. So, my only answer to that so far is just "have faith and do not doubt" and also the fact that I've had a few experiences doing telekinesis by myself and with others. I think the only answer to that is just to have faith that it is a looming reality. We shall see....
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Post by alfaalex101 on Apr 28, 2009 9:15:16 GMT -5
I've come to the conclusion that beliefs can only be changed through experiences. They cannot be forced otherwise, or else we'd all be sincerely and fully convinced a pink elephant with a lepricon is flying up there somewhere in the clouds giving away free video games...for reasons outside of proof(okay I got carried away.) Beliefs can only be supported, not forced in. So instead I'm going to present and compare the characteristics of belief and brain washing. Note: I'm using belief and faith interchangably. Some characteristics of belief - A belief ignores what is seen now, it dwells in the future.
- A belief is confident that reality reflects his/her view.
- A belief comes from within
- A belief leads up to producing proof.
- A belief is cultivated and grows daily.
- A belief cannot be forced
- A belief persevers
Some characteristics of brainwashing - Inserts often false ideas in ones mind
- Is not based off of reality
- Is inflicted from an external source
- Can be forced
- Takes no effort
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Post by alfaalex101 on May 11, 2009 11:50:54 GMT -5
A small but significant update:
Our belief limits our will. We cannot do something that we think we cannot do.
Faith is illogical, it simply cannot be proven.
Will = Faith for when you say "Do This" or "DO IT" you imply you can do something, therfore you have faith something can be done.
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But it does provide some good practice (aka *attempting* to move pencils and making psi ball under my desk)
), that I would be able to roll a pen! And I did! The thing that got me going on the pen roll was because a website actually said, hey, you don't need to start at that stupid psi wheel! It was really encouraging and my faith grew and I did it! SO - I don't think visualizations...are needed. Meditations included...like..if they were so useful, why wouldn't we see people moving mountains? They aren't. Most people that do telekinesis themselves, don't know how it works. Anyways, I think I'm not going to visualize objects moving anymore. It's pointless and is being dragged along from failing techniques to failing techniques. If people are having faith not visualizing but just having faith that they can cure themselves of cancer and diabetes, then the heck I know it will work amazingly with telekinesis.